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Poster: | Bob Gnarley | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 11:31am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 11:32am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
Also, I find Cassidy to be a phenominally more dynamic and interesting bassit than Jack Bruce. I just don't like Bruces sound on bass. Maybe it's the fretless thing
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Poster: | William Tell | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 11:50am |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 12:51pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
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Poster: | bluedevil | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 1:27pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
John Coltrane
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 1:34pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
The saxaphone is a woodwind instrument not brass. And I love woodwind
Gottcha my friend! : )
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Poster: | bluedevil | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 1:45pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
The saxophone (commonly referred to simply as sax) is a conical-bored transposing musical instrument considered a member of the woodwind family. Saxophones are usually made of brass and are played with a single-reed mouthpiece similar to the clarinet.
I stand corrected. For 45 years (or a bit less), I've always considered a sax in the same family as a trumpet and tuba while deeming the clarinet a woodwind EVEN THOUGH I was well aware of the reed issue that clearly makes it part of the woodwind family. With that said, check out some Dirty Dozen Brass Brand - they are a fun time (even if it's not all strictly brass instruments).
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 1:52pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
Dirty Dozen, aren't they dixiland or am I mistaken?
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Poster: | bluedevil | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 1:55pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8G4q52EsCc&feature=related
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 3:18pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
I knew it was a matter of time. I've heard good things about them
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 1:53pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
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Poster: | William Tell | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 1:39pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
I really can't imagine us talking this way about someone like him; don't take it personal--but I have not EVER met a muscian's musician that didn't put him on a pedestal if they played/appreciated bass. Don't take that the wrong way--it is NOT an ad homin. attack on you--it is just new to me and that sounds so sanctimonius so I'll stop...
At least we can agree about the PATS!
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 1:46pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
But I don't generally need so many notes crammed in there to impress me. I just don't like the tone. I can't really put my finger on it. I can respect many a great musician but that doesn't nescessarily mean it's pleasing to MY ear. Look at it the same as Dylan, to me I love the way he sings ( well not anymore but past stuff ). There are a billion better trained voices but it's the style or phrasing. I dont know.
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Poster: | William Tell | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 2:00pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
Anyway, my bad on it; seriously. Always good to kick it around in the interest to understanding our own biases and such better.
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 3:16pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
Pete Sears - I never think of him as a great bassist but I dig his contributions on the keys. I was pulling for him to get the spot that went to Vince.
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Poster: | William Tell | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 3:59pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
A bunch of us DEAD types saw Starship in 75 at Winterland, and he did an extended solo. It was the loudest, harshest bass playing I ever was subjected to...we were aghast, but apparently no as much as the folks in the front three rows on the floor who, I shit you not, all stood up and started booing him and waving their hands in a "get outta here!" sortof gesture (?), and he actually paused, though holding a "note" and flipped them (and us all?) off!
It was frickin surreal. At some level, I had to think it was kinda cool, but nonetheless, it cemented my view of him as less than ideal bass playing wise.
Hard to describe, but the notes were just raw, distorted sounds--opposite of "clean" if that makes any sense whatsoever...almost as if you were attempting to transform your bassline into a organ or other "fill" instrument.
Sorry, babbling now...
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 4:47pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
He's really tasteful on keys when he's played with Hot Tuna and other low key stuff. I'm not sure he'd of been a big enough of a presence for the Dead BUT, I really didn't want them to rely so much on the keyboards as they did with Brent. Plus, I liked the idea of having someone who'd been around the scene for as long as he had. But alas, that was 18 flippin years ago. Hard to believe.
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Poster: | Thai Stick | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 12:43pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
I should not have just called out Clapton. There all very very gifted Musicians. It's just it does not open up anything new. I cant think, explore it. It's a real werd narrow minded me thing.
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Poster: | William Tell | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 11:39am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
Arb sent me a nice little show from 84 or so with it...
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Poster: | bluedevil | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 11:41am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BD6kLb-bCQ&feature=related
More fun w/ Duane and Eric:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuRVXKwU-jM&feature=related
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 11:51am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |
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Poster: | bluedevil | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 12:02pm |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Jan 21, 2009 1:35pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Non-Dead for William Tell |